Why I'm More Moral Than
(The Judeo-Christian God of the Old Testament)
topic was inspired
in part by an online discussion I had on the "Cosmos: A Spacetime
Odyssey" TV show board on IMDb. This discussion was with a Christian
who -- unbelievably to me --- had joined IMDb specifically so
could come on a board about a science
program and preach about his/her religious
I told that proselytizer that the god portrayed in the Bible had worse
morals than I did. (Though I did acknowledge that if the Jesus Christ
portrayed in the Gospels was accurate, there was a person who was more
moral than I was. But, according to their religion, Jesus Christ is
only one facet of the Judeo-Christian deity's multiple personalities.
It's like pretending that Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde don't inhabit
same body to say that the sins of God-the-Father aren't a part of
God-the-Son.) I listed a number of actions that the Bible depicts God
as doing, but couldn't get an acknowledgment that any of those acts
were bad though the person did admit that those would be bad acts
That's the moral equivalent of..............
the old guy down the street is teased for being bald by some
neighborhood children and he goes into his garage, comes out with an ax
and starts hacking the kids to pieces, Christians (especially
fundamentalist, law & order Christians) are all for throwing
prison. The Judeo-Christian God has forty-two children torn to pieces
by bears for calling one of his prophets bald, those
same Christians are
fine with that. Their next door neighbor knocks up an twelve year
old girl and Christians will express the hope he'll get raped
And when he gets out of prison, they sure don't want him living next
door to them again, especially if they have a twelve year old girl in the family. But God knocks up a twelve year old Mary (the age that Jewish girls would be betrothed)
and Christians invite Him into their homes and introduce their children
to Him. There's a doctor in town performing abortions ----- shut that
clinic down! They're murdering babies. Get the Republican legislature
to pass laws about
"transvaginal ultrasounds" and "fetal pain." But God can wipe out
towns, countries, most of the world with all those unborn babies killed
and those same Christians screaming about how it's wrong to kill the
unborn won't let out a peep.
As I said to that proselytizing Christian on the Cosmos board, Christians
are the kings of moral relativism. Even
though they pretend that moral relativism is abhorrent to them,
they're actually the biggest practitioners of it. Because none of the
ones I've met have the stones to say that those acts of their god were
evil though they have no problems condemning the actions of the people.
As I told the person on the board, "Your arguments all boil down to
'God did it, so it's okay.'"
Me? I don't have any problems saying they're not okay and condemning
many of the acts of the god
depicted in the Old Testament. It doesn't even matter to me that I
believe those acts are fictional. Fictional actions and fictional
characters can be evil --- a good villain is a necessity for many
stories. (It didn't matter in Star Wars
that the stormtroopers wore white hats, well, helmets --- you could
tell the Empire was bad by its actions of murdering Luke's family and
torturing Princess Leia and blowing up the planet of Alderaan.) So even
though I believe that most of the Bible is fictional,
especially the Old Testament (though some of it may have a very loose
basis in historical events), when I read about the character of God in
the Bible, I don't think he's very moral in a lot of it.
So it's easy for me to say that I'm
more moral than the God of the Old Testament.
Now, I'm no saint...............I'm better
than some saints. After all, I would never burn someone alive for
having a book like Saint Thomas More did. (Ironically, the book they
were burned for having was the Bible.) And I would never continue to
employee a pedophile in a job where he can keep on molesting children
like Pope, excuse me, Saint John Paul II did* --- and his
sainthood raced through. But sainthood is less
about being truly moral and more hinged upon
miracles. And, hey, John Paul II
had the requisite number of miracles
(2) that got credited to him, so make him a saint. The sexual abuse of
thousands of children is nothing compared to a couple of
"miracles." Yet according to the Bible the spirits of devils
perform miracles, so miracles seem a poor criteria for sainthood to me.
I'm no angel. But then, one-third of the host of heaven rebelled
against God. Of course, if their god was the God depicted in the Old
Testament, I wouldn't blame them for that. If I were forced to worship
someone who did the things that deity did, I'd hope I'd have the
courage to rebel.
What I try to be is simply a decent
person most of the time. Most of us, I hope, try to be a decent person
most of the time whether we're motivated by religion or humanism. If
you do manage to be a decent person most of the time, then
"Congratulations!" because that would make you too more moral than
the God of the Old Testament, because that deity committed a lot of
wrongdoing even if plenty of morally relativistic Christians absolutely
refuse to acknowledge it.
So here for comparison I present part one of what
the Biblical God did and what I would have done were I God. And I have
no problems saying I think my actions would have been more
|GENESIS -- GOD'S VERSUS MY
ADAM & EVE and CAIN & ABEL
||What God Did
||What I'd Have Done as God
|The Story of Adam and Eve
to the First Humans
Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and
have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air,
and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which
is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the
fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to
every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have
given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
this wonderful world that I created. Live in harmony and balance with
it. Treat it and the other creatures that live in it --- whether they
live in the sea, the air or the land --- with respect. That goes for
the children you'll have one day and their children and all
generations to come out of your fruitfulness and multiplying. Just keep
that multiplying to a reasonable amount --- a stable population of a
billion, max, is a good goal."
This I actually agree with. I'd have started the world off as
the Forbidden Fruit
||2:16 And the
Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou
mayest freely eat:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat
of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
|"You can eat
from any tree in the garden except this one. Leave this tree alone.
It's the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and it will forever
change your life and alter this wonderful existence I gave to you.
ask me why I planted it here in the garden with you when I don't want
you eating it and could have planted it on the other side of the
planet; and, believe me, you have know idea how far away that is.
"It's here. You're going to have to deal with it. Trust me. A lot of
life can be like that."
the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord
God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall
not eat of every tree of the garden?
snake. Stay away from my children." As I'm God, I can enforce that
the Forbidden Fruit
||3:6 And when the
woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to
the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise,
there's something any parent (or caretaker) should understand
about young children who don't know the difference between right and
wrong, it's that you have to tell them over and over what
are and what's acceptable behavior. And my human creations, though
physically mature, are children in emotions, psychology and experience.
So they have to be taught just like children.
Here's where being God
comes in handy. You see, I'm omniscient. So the first time Eve
approached the tree and started to pick a fruit, I'd have told her,
"No!" very firmly. After that, the warnings would escalate. A loud clap
of thunder, a strategically placed lightning bolt should scare the
bejesus out of those two. Never mind that Jesus hasn't been born yet.
3:6 she took of the fruit thereof, and did
eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. and did eat, and gave also unto her
husband with her; and he did eat.
And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the
tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave
me of the tree, and I did eat.
And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done?
And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
right, I've warned those kids it feels like a
about the forbidden fruit. They have a thorough understanding of their
limits and that they should not eat that fruit.
But they ate the fruit anyway.
"Did the two of you eat the fruit I told you not to eat?" I ask full
well knowing the answer.
quit blaming your wife. You knew perfectly well that you shouldn't eat
that fruit. God knows and you know, I've told you enough times."
you, young lady, if the snake had told you to jump off a cliff
would you have done that too? You made your own decision."
And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this,
thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field;
upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman,
and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou
shalt bruise his heel.
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy
conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire
shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy
wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying,
Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow
shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
18 Thorns also and thistles shall it
bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto
the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto
dust shalt thou return.
|I don't need
to punish the snake. Human nature is going to do that one for me.
"You are so grounded. And I mean G-R-O-U-N-D-E-D.
When you're through with your chores, it's straight to bed with you.
And that fun stuff you do to try to be fruitful and
multiply............forget it. You're going to be too tired.
it's suddenly autumn in the Garden of Eden. And you haven't invented
the rake or the wheel barrow or even the wheel and the Hefty garbage
bag is long time off, so have fun trying to pick up all those leaves
and take them to the compost pile."
||3:20 And Adam
called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins,
and clothed them.
And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know
good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of
the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to
till the ground from whence he was taken.
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of
Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the
way of the tree of life.
you're welcome to suggest a name for your wife. If she likes it, she'll
use it. But don't start getting full of yourself. I'm
the mother of all living. Even after you and your wife have children,
she's still not going to be the mother of all living. And you're not
going to be the father of all living."
What? I'm going to
start killing my other innocent creations who haven't done anything
wrong, just so those two can have clothing? Not this God.
speaking to myself, "Hmmm. Maybe I should transplant that other tree
and get it away from those two. After all, I'm God. I shouldn't make
the same mistake twice. That would make me a pretty dumb God."
Kick my children out of their home because they disobeyed me once? Not
this God. This God has a sense of proportion.
|The Story of Cain and Abel
||4 And Adam
knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have
gotten a man from the Lord.
2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep,
but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the
fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.
And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat
thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was
very wroth, and his countenance fell.
6 And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy
If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not
well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and
thou shalt rule over him.
My vegetarian kids are now meat eaters. Sigh. Oh well, that's what
happens when you give them free will.
"Thank you, Cain, for your present to your grandparent. I know you
worked hard on this."
"Thank you, Abel, for your present to your grandparent. I know you
worked hard on this."
a chance of this happening. It doesn't matter which one I liked better
(which offering or which grandchild), I'm still going to be equally
respectful of both their offerings. They're both my grandchildren, and
they both worked hard at making their gifts for their old grandgod.
And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they
were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew
9 And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said,
I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood
crieth unto me from the ground.
least I know my actions in favoring one grandchild over the other
didn't cause this horrible crime because I didn't favor Abel over Cain.
No, this is clearly the result of eating that forbidden fruit. Even
didn't pass their parents' sin onto their children. I'm trying to be a
moral God here and what kind of moral deity curses children
the actions of their parents? A moral deity wouldn't. No, it's their parents
who passed on their sin. Adam and Eve have the knowledge of
good and evil and they raised their kids with that knowledge.
what have you done?????????"
||4:11 And now art thou
cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy
brother's blood from thy hand;
When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee
her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.
for murdering your brother, for
this you get kicked out of the Garden
of Eden. But first you're going to have to tell your parents what you
Reaction to His Punishment
||4:13 And Cain said unto
the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth;
and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a
vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that
findeth me shall slay me.
15 And the Lord said unto him,
Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him
sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him
should kill him.
|"Tough. Don't do the
crime unless you can do the time."
the only other people on the entire planet are your parents. I don't
blame you for thinking your parents are going to kill you after what
you did. But I've already decided your punishment so I won't let them
kill you. Though it's understandable if they knock you around
I can only hope that a
few decades of wandering the Earth by himself will teach Cain the value
of human life.
|Exit from Eden
||4:16 And Cain
went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod,
on the east of Eden.
17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch
|And, now, I
as God have a dilemma --- one of my own making.
see, I don't want my grandchildren committing incest with their
siblings. That kind of inbreeding can cause serious genetic problems
down the line. Brothers and sisters fucking, that's going to lead to
pointy headed Egyptian pharaohs and Deliverance.
And I better explain all that to Adam and Eve before the other kids
they're going to have start playing doctor.
that still leaves with my problem of who those kids are going to play
doctor with. Obviously, I'm going to have to create some more
people for Adam and Eve's kids to eventually marry. I'll put them in
the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve. Sadly, they'll never have the
innocent existence that Adam and Eve had. It doesn't even matter if
they eat of the fruit of the once forbidden tree. Because simply by
being around Adam and Eve, they're going to learn about good &
just like Cain and Abel did. And when some of them do something bad
enough, I'll have to kick them out of the garden. Or maybe a few of
them will get the urge to explore. It is a gorgeous
world, if I do say so myself, and well worth seeing.
Let the begetting begin.
Next time -- I handle the
Flood and Noah's Ark.
first heard of pedophile priests in the 1980s, and I wasn't
member of the Catholic Church much less the head of it. Then about
every 10 years after that there would be another big media blitz in the
U.S. about the Catholic Church and its pedophile priests. But Pope John
Paul II just sat on his thumbs instead of getting those perverts the
hell away from children. One prominent example of Saint John Paul II's
continuing to employee a pedophile was the case of Rev.
Maciel, the founder of the Legion of Christ. "In
1979, a US bishop sent the Congregation for Religious a bombshell set
of documents detailing the 20 Legion priests and seminarians who had
been sexually abused by Maciel." That was 1979. The entire
time that Saint John Paul II was pope (1978 - 2005), he did nothing
to investigate Maciel. Maciel wasn't convicted and sanctioned until after John Paul II
was finally dead.
For more of my take on religion, the religious and
what the Bible has to say, read "Life Among the Baptists: One Outsider's
Perspective" and "Self-Proclaimed Antichrist."
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